Comments on: Video: Appleton, Wisconsin Police Discuss New Concealed Carry Law http://wisconsingunowners.org/2011/10/26/video-appleton-wisconsin-police-discuss-new-concealed-carry-law/ Wisconsin's Only No-Compromise Gun Lobby Sat, 14 Apr 2012 13:36:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tory II, Illinois http://wisconsingunowners.org/2011/10/26/video-appleton-wisconsin-police-discuss-new-concealed-carry-law/#comment-27470 Tory II, Illinois Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:00:08 +0000 http://wisconsingunowners.org/?p=778#comment-27470 Good way to explain it. "They fear armed law-abiding people more than armed criminals." Good way to explain it. “They fear armed law-abiding people more than armed criminals.”

]]> By: Tory II, Illinois http://wisconsingunowners.org/2011/10/26/video-appleton-wisconsin-police-discuss-new-concealed-carry-law/#comment-27469 Tory II, Illinois Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:57:56 +0000 http://wisconsingunowners.org/?p=778#comment-27469 They are the people who arrest you, take you off the street, and make you disappear. We have to make the law and we have to make the law clear to police so they can't use its ambiguity/vagueness as excuses. They are the people who arrest you, take you off the street, and make you disappear. We have to make the law and we have to make the law clear to police so they can’t use its ambiguity/vagueness as excuses.

]]> By: Tory II, Illinois http://wisconsingunowners.org/2011/10/26/video-appleton-wisconsin-police-discuss-new-concealed-carry-law/#comment-27468 Tory II, Illinois Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:54:48 +0000 http://wisconsingunowners.org/?p=778#comment-27468 Quote: "...it's unfortunate from a SAFETY standpoint that they cannot post city parks. " Banning guns or other weapons doesn't make anyone safe or safer except for armed criminals. Gun bans make everyone unsafe. Police are not safety experts, they're safety hazards. If school or campus gun bans made students safe, the Virginia Tech shooting would never have happened and everyone would still be alive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhgzcioPet8 Quote:

“…it’s unfortunate from a SAFETY standpoint that they cannot post city parks. ”

Banning guns or other weapons doesn’t make anyone safe or safer except for armed criminals. Gun bans make everyone unsafe.

Police are not safety experts, they’re safety hazards.

If school or campus gun bans made students safe, the Virginia Tech shooting would never have happened and everyone would still be alive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhgzcioPet8

]]> By: mel http://wisconsingunowners.org/2011/10/26/video-appleton-wisconsin-police-discuss-new-concealed-carry-law/#comment-23899 mel Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:11:38 +0000 http://wisconsingunowners.org/?p=778#comment-23899 After listening to the interview, you mean that these police officers approached vehicles during a traffic stop with no fear of an armed criminal before the law and now they fear everyone? After listening to the interview, you mean that these police officers approached vehicles during a traffic stop with no fear of an armed criminal before the law and now they fear everyone?

]]> By: Rodney Arneson http://wisconsingunowners.org/2011/10/26/video-appleton-wisconsin-police-discuss-new-concealed-carry-law/#comment-21368 Rodney Arneson Sat, 29 Oct 2011 12:37:47 +0000 http://wisconsingunowners.org/?p=778#comment-21368 My thoughts are that CCW folks should boycott any business and/or cities that don't allow us to carry a conceal weapon to protect our loved ones... My thoughts are that CCW folks should boycott any business and/or cities that don’t allow us to carry a conceal weapon to protect our loved ones…

]]> By: Scott http://wisconsingunowners.org/2011/10/26/video-appleton-wisconsin-police-discuss-new-concealed-carry-law/#comment-21359 Scott Sat, 29 Oct 2011 08:40:18 +0000 http://wisconsingunowners.org/?p=778#comment-21359 A law enforcement agency is NOT a source of legal council, so they can NOT lawfully advise anyone on HOW to handle the nuamces of the new law, that is specifically up to the DOJ not law enforcement. Cops are NOT Lawyers. A law enforcement agency is NOT a source of legal council, so they can NOT lawfully advise anyone on HOW to handle the nuamces of the new law, that is specifically up to the DOJ not law enforcement. Cops are NOT Lawyers.

]]> By: Robert http://wisconsingunowners.org/2011/10/26/video-appleton-wisconsin-police-discuss-new-concealed-carry-law/#comment-21340 Robert Sat, 29 Oct 2011 02:39:39 +0000 http://wisconsingunowners.org/?p=778#comment-21340 City government may not blanket suspend Consitutional Rights on city property without due process of the law. City government is also of the people, by the people and for the people. It is NOT it's own entity seperate from the people. The people have spoken in favor of lawful concealed carry so the city is bound by the citizens voice and shall not suspend that duty to comply. City government may not blanket suspend Consitutional Rights on city property without due process of the law. City government is also of the people, by the people and for the people. It is NOT it’s own entity seperate from the people. The people have spoken in favor of lawful concealed carry so the city is bound by the citizens voice and shall not suspend that duty to comply.

]]> By: Individual CC Permit feelings affecting the public - Page 2 http://wisconsingunowners.org/2011/10/26/video-appleton-wisconsin-police-discuss-new-concealed-carry-law/#comment-21316 Individual CC Permit feelings affecting the public - Page 2 Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:56:50 +0000 http://wisconsingunowners.org/?p=778#comment-21316 [...] Originally Posted by jtpur Please tell us what City this is in so that we can start a letter writing campaign. The NRA and other gun rights groups should be picketing the Police Station, and he should be getting as much negative press as we can generate. You are correct he should not use his position to mold behavior to his way of thinking...but isnt that what all good marxest do? I was notified by the WGO, Wisconsin Gun Owners group. The video is about 30 minutes long and kind of boring, but the officer is being interviewed by the Post Crescent Digital Newsmakers, and my bad he is not a chief, but a captain. I have no idea what the difference is in Leo rank, we have captains in the army but chiefs are in the navy!! This captain is the commander of the souther district. The city is Appleton, WI a city about 30 miles from Green Bay (Go Packers!) . He has been tasked with developing the new procedures for the CC law that goes into effect in a couple of days. From the video: Note also that Capt. Nyman says that all public buildings in Appleton will post to prohibit concealed carry (a citywide de facto suspension of constitutional rights). Please let me know if you think this is absolutely nothing or if I took this wrong... At about 21 minutes into the video is where the Captain says all city buildings will be posted and UNFORTUNATELY parks cannot be posted, and then he says it's unfortunate from a SAFETY standpoint that they cannot post city parks. Video: Appleton, Wisconsin Police Discuss New Concealed Carry Law | Wisconsin Gun Owners, Inc. (WGO)... [...] [...] Originally Posted by jtpur Please tell us what City this is in so that we can start a letter writing campaign. The NRA and other gun rights groups should be picketing the Police Station, and he should be getting as much negative press as we can generate. You are correct he should not use his position to mold behavior to his way of thinking…but isnt that what all good marxest do? I was notified by the WGO, Wisconsin Gun Owners group. The video is about 30 minutes long and kind of boring, but the officer is being interviewed by the Post Crescent Digital Newsmakers, and my bad he is not a chief, but a captain. I have no idea what the difference is in Leo rank, we have captains in the army but chiefs are in the navy!! This captain is the commander of the souther district. The city is Appleton, WI a city about 30 miles from Green Bay (Go Packers!) . He has been tasked with developing the new procedures for the CC law that goes into effect in a couple of days. From the video: Note also that Capt. Nyman says that all public buildings in Appleton will post to prohibit concealed carry (a citywide de facto suspension of constitutional rights). Please let me know if you think this is absolutely nothing or if I took this wrong… At about 21 minutes into the video is where the Captain says all city buildings will be posted and UNFORTUNATELY parks cannot be posted, and then he says it's unfortunate from a SAFETY standpoint that they cannot post city parks. Video: Appleton, Wisconsin Police Discuss New Concealed Carry Law | Wisconsin Gun Owners, Inc. (WGO)… [...]

]]> By: jerry zopp http://wisconsingunowners.org/2011/10/26/video-appleton-wisconsin-police-discuss-new-concealed-carry-law/#comment-21280 jerry zopp Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:55:34 +0000 http://wisconsingunowners.org/?p=778#comment-21280 I thought Capt. Rudy did a very good job of explaining the police position on conceald carry. no problem there. as far as the city creating criminal "safe" zones,i guess that's up to them. just glad i'm not a public worker in one of them zones. I thought Capt. Rudy did a very good job of explaining the police position on conceald carry. no problem there. as far as the city creating criminal “safe” zones,i guess that’s up to them. just glad i’m not a public worker in one of them zones.

]]> By: Brian lange http://wisconsingunowners.org/2011/10/26/video-appleton-wisconsin-police-discuss-new-concealed-carry-law/#comment-21279 Brian lange Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:53:00 +0000 http://wisconsingunowners.org/?p=778#comment-21279 the appleton police dept has talked anti ccw when the dole pinneapple was in office! he also said his officers would ask if you had a firearm when they stop you in a traffic stop! i dont think they can legally do that!!! He is always shooting off his mouth about law abiding citizens that are going to legally carry with a permit!!! go have a cup of coffee Barney fife, and relax!!!!! the appleton police dept has talked anti ccw when the dole pinneapple was in office! he also said his officers would ask if you had a firearm when they stop you in a traffic stop! i dont think they can legally do that!!! He is always shooting off his mouth about law abiding citizens that are going to legally carry with a permit!!! go have a cup of coffee Barney fife, and relax!!!!!

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